Posted March 04, 2007 at 01:17:32 from 75.109.56.104
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KassieI checked the 1850 census records for Scott Co., VA--Goldman Lawson age 35 b TNPolly age 37 b. VA James B 10 b TNElizabeth 7 b TNJohn M. 5 b TNJonas W. 3 VASo Goldman probably moved to VA from TN around 1847.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 09:37:28 from 64.12.117.9
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Leagen to All
Weather beautiful yesterday and today in the 40's/low 50's. BUT cold coming again in the 20's so we r just getting teased. I'll accept it.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 10:22:14 from 64.12.117.9
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Have u considered that Samuel M. Hall might have died after 1880 but before 1900? Both his brothers stayed around the Atlanta area and his father had a good business so it seems he too would have stayed there. In 1880 Sam was 21 and it looks like he was Book or Rook keeping. Rook keeping ,I think, means keeping pigens which seems a strange occupation.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 10:48:07 from 68.189.75.103
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Yes, I am sure that is why I can't find Samuel. I don't know if it was rook or book either. The family was in business so maybe Sam did the books. I will have to go back and take a look. Did it say where he was practicing his job?Have you ever tried to do a search for the obit columns in a newspaper. I know the brother, David died in 1902 and I have tried to find his obit using the Atlanta Constitution and his name. Have you ever tired doing a search for the date and the obit column. There are just too many David Halls to try the way I was searching.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 10:49:38 from 67.150.89.252
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Hi,just got a min. here for now,but have you ever found the R.R. company Sam worked for? I'll bb..I think we are home now for a bit ..?:) I'll bb later if not just in and out...Snowing and blowing and temp. took a big drop.....hate to even go back out right now..but....?
Posted March 04, 2007 at 10:49:45 from 64.12.117.9
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I Found David's obit in Atlanta Constitution Sept.19,1902 and all it says about family is he was survived by wife,daughter,2 brothers and one sister so we know Sam was still alive in Sept. 1902.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 10:52:43 from 67.150.89.252
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As I said I found 1880.. there were ..671.. David HALLS.in the U.S.......If we had a wife and kids names or where he worked etc.that all would help.But still fun..he wil show up..how aboyut a cemetery where are the others buried??
Posted March 04, 2007 at 10:53:25 from 67.150.89.252
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Gret..a wife and dau.:) that will help..:) ..
Posted March 04, 2007 at 10:54:05 from 64.12.117.9
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No names or locations for Davids family were given. He died of a brain hemorrage and had been sick 2 weeks but few had known how serious it was. He (d) at 10 AM at his home at 456 Washington St.,Atlanta and the funeral was the next day, Friday, Sept. 19th from the home and he was buried in West View. He was a Traveling Passenger Agent for the GA. Southern and Florida RR. He was 43 and (b) in Atlanta and lived there most of his life.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 10:54:52 from 67.150.89.252
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A name of R>R company.. we can search for those that went to and out of Atlanta, right???
Posted March 04, 2007 at 10:57:38 from 67.150.89.252
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You have David HALL..there..right...She wants Samuel HALL ..so did they work for the same RR company? Wonder?..well, bb later
Posted March 04, 2007 at 10:57:40 from 67.150.89.252
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You have David HALL..there..right...She wants Samuel HALL ..so did they work for the same RR company? Wonder?..well, bb later
Posted March 04, 2007 at 10:58:09 from 67.150.89.252
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Mar to All
Sorry for doubles..in a hurry there...eekkks..
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:04:52 from 71.124.53.12
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I tried to find the 1850 census record w/ the Lawsons in it. I cant seem to find them. I tried every name that you had listed that you found. Is there anyway you can save it and send it to me? PLEASE
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:07:26 from 68.189.75.103
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TY for looking. Leagen, I did an obit search for the AC and just went through a bunch of days for September... the 19th was not listed. But David had H.L. and Joseph for brothers also. So maybe Samuel was dead. Mar. Levi and Joseph had a coffin factory.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:10:43 from 67.150.92.16
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Yea..I saw the coffen factory..but you want Samuel right??/ he was RR..Levi once was..so maybe same RR company..What about the cemetery though.. are they buried in Atalanta GA. Theres an Oakwood there.. That may be what we or you should check... A family plot in a cemetery where they all lived.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:11:08 from 68.189.75.103
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Is it possible for you to send a link for that paper and that day?
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:14:26 from 67.150.92.16
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Hi Kassie..Well,I'm out of here....dau ask us for dinner.About 10 feet to car maybe 20 feet to her door..I CAN handle..for dinner:) But a kiss on those pgdgy cheeks of those g.daus. will be worht it! 5 mins there is not bad either:).....bbl.....
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:17:49 from 68.189.75.103
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I wrote to Oakwood Cemetery in Atlanta and man got back to me... no there was not family plot.. I might want to do a find agrave.. did not think of that.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:30:36 from 68.189.75.103
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I found my way there .. got on the 19th and found David's article. TY for leading me there.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:41:38 from 68.189.75.103
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The census said he was born in TN but this obit says Atlanta CA.. typical, I guess.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:48:35 from 64.12.117.9
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I just realized something. By 1880 Levi and Mary had another son Named H.L. (b) ca. 1874 giving them 4 sons and one daughter and when David (d) in 1902 only TWO brothers were alive so it could be SAM was the brother who had already died.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:51:43 from 64.12.117.9
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I posted my last post before reading yours about H.L. And if David was buried in West View Cemt. maybe Sam was too.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:55:48 from 68.189.75.103
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My next step is contacting that cemetery after taking a look to see what might be online. That would be a good thing if I find them all together. I think what led me on the wrong path was the fact that I did find the father, Levi and wife Mary buried in Oakland cemetery, in Atlanta and took a bad guess as to the others going there, too.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 11:56:39 from 64.12.117.9
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In 1890 city directory for Atlanta Levi was still alive listed w/his coffin business.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 12:20:21 from 64.12.117.9
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In 1889 city directory Samuel M. Hall boarded at the Kimball House in Atlanta and worked as a Clerk for his father so we know he was alive as late as 1889. If he boarded at a Hotel he was prob. single.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 12:21:07 from 68.189.75.103
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I think that H.L. may have been Harry Levi Hall.. just a guess. I cam across thisWell, no it is not a guess, Harry is at that Washington address.Name: Harry HallLocation 2: boards 258 WashingtonYear: 1890City: AtlantaState: GA
Posted March 04, 2007 at 12:24:01 from 64.12.117.9
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I just found that info on Harry. That is what I was just about to post here but u beat me to it!
Posted March 04, 2007 at 12:30:14 from 64.12.117.9
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There were 2 different Hall men also boarding at The Kimball House andd both worked for a Germania Insurance Co., wonder if related to your hall's? One was a Stovall Hall I think. There was no Hall woman listed living at the Kimball House who worked. I think that directory only listed people who had jobs or businesses so if Sam had a wife w/him but she didn't work she might not be listed.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 12:32:46 from 68.189.75.103
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Joseph was alive in 1910 census doing the coffin thing. I think that the cemetery is my best hope here. Also see that David had Masonic cemetery,, the railroad and the masonic were strong in the Halls.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 12:51:56 from 68.189.75.103
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This tempting, but can't be correct. Their father was born in N.H. but the men here are brothers. Manhattan !!
Posted March 04, 2007 at 12:56:22 from 68.189.75.103
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NJR to Leagen, Mar and room
I forgot to paste this in.1910 United States Federal Censusabout L Harry HallName: L Harry HallAge in 1910: 36Estimated birth year: abt 1874Birthplace: GeorgiaRelation to Head of House: BrotherFather's Birth Place: VermontMother's Birth Place: GeorgiaHome in 1910: Manhattan Ward 16, New York, New YorkMarital Status: MarriedRace: WhiteGender: MaleNeighbors: View others on pageHousehold Members: Name AgeSamuel Hall 51L Harry Hall 36Florence Hall 33
Posted March 04, 2007 at 13:36:22 from 64.12.117.9
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Look in 1910 in GA for Harry. If he is THERE then he can't be the NY one.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 13:56:31 from 68.189.75.103
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I don't find him in GA in 1910. But it seems pretty far fetched Sam and Harry in Manhattan. I think I better hold off until I check with the cemetery in Ga, I am hoping they will help me.In NY Samuel's birthdate is a bit off.but the two are listed as brothers. The wife, Florence could have given out the VT birthplace for Levi..
Posted March 04, 2007 at 16:35:19 from 71.124.53.12
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Nevermind Judy, I found Goldman,they had his last name as Dawson. I found him in 1860 as well. Now trying to find him in 1870 and up. If you find him before me. Let me know. Thanks again for all ur help.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 17:41:57 from 67.150.46.53
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Can you post just Samuel..Levi H. HALL and Mary ? maiden name?..dob-dod.. Sams wife,maiden name,dates..locations..etc...info and what ever you know for sure. Nothing extra or things you think just what you have dtaes names that stuff..?
Posted March 04, 2007 at 18:15:34 from 152.163.100.73
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NJR doesn't know if Sam ever married, that is one of the things she is trying to find out.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 18:27:58 from 152.163.100.73
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I found Joseph J. still in Atlanta in 1910 (He (m) a Nellie in 1896)so those in NY can't be correct because when David (d0 in 1902 he was survived by 2 brothers meaning one had died. So all three of David's brothers couldn't be alive in 1910 and we Know Joseph was so either Sam or Harry was dead by 1910.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 18:28:02 from 68.189.75.103
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David HAll JR. b in NH 1784 hm to Miriam or Lucinda Burbank had
Levi who was born in 1827 in NH and married Mary E. who was born in GA. I don't know the married name of Mary E.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 18:32:45 from 68.189.75.103
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Could Harry/ H.L have been a WW1 war casualty? Would he have been too old to go as he was 44. I joined the GAFulton rootsweb page and some has told me that the people at the west view cemetery are very helpful. So far there info is not online, but I will write tomorrow and mail.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 18:33:52 from 68.189.75.103
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Mary E. ___________ Hall was born abt 1839.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 18:44:22 from 67.150.45.97
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Thanks I had Levi has oldest and son David..I thought you were not sure if Sam was m..or not. So that helps and have copied it all, will look and watch for )
Posted March 04, 2007 at 18:57:18 from 68.189.75.103
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How was dinner? I am pretty sure that Joseph J. and His Nellie V. did not have children. Samuel and H.L who is no doubt Harry may or may not have married. As to the sister, she was alive in 1902 so she may have married. So confusing, but I have hopes.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 19:45:25 from 68.189.75.103
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I went ahead and joined the rootsweb. got his I think it is H.L>
Details for ID Number: 84956
Geneological Information:
Last Name First Name Middle Title Gender Date of Birth Date of Death
HALL
HARRY
L.
None
Unknown
Unknown
24 October 1927
Microfilm References:
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Obituary Abstracts
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211
Other
Posted March 04, 2007 at 19:51:20 from 68.189.75.103
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OK, this might be Samuel as his middle name was M. but what is this Esther.. this column is supposed to be middle names. Last Name First Name Middle Title Gender Date of Birth Date of Death
HALL
SAM
ESTHER MEAKIN
None
Unknown
Unknown
Unknown
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Obituary Abstracts
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Posted March 04, 2007 at 19:53:42 from 68.189.75.103
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I am sure this is Levi although I thought he was alive in 1900.
Last Name First Name Middle Title Gender Date of Birth Date of Death
HALL
LEVI
H.
None
Unknown
Unknown
7 November 1899
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Fulton
Posted March 04, 2007 at 20:08:31 from 68.189.75.103
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NJR to Mar, Leagen and all
This is where I got me latest info.
http://garrett.atlantahistorycenter.com/
Posted March 04, 2007 at 20:45:58 from 67.150.79.22
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Dinner was great as always. And good to see kids. The little ones (grand children)cheer ya up..so it was nice. Tired, I was up all most all night last night..will see tonight. I ran into a Joseph and a Nellie earlier and past it up...oh well, Does Hampton NH ring any bells?..Ill look as I go around or bored...and just post, if it helps okay if not then nothing lost. bb
Posted March 04, 2007 at 21:07:54 from 68.189.75.103
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The HALL family arrived in Walpole, Cheshire county NH and was there for a while. Various branches were in VT and back and forth to NH. Levi is the only one who really left the area and went south. That is not true, another brother ended up in IL and a sister came to NY but south is new for that family.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 21:14:53 from 68.189.75.103
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Now that I have a few death dates what is the best way to find the newspaper that would give the obit. I am guessing if they had an obit it would have been in the Atlanta Constitution.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 21:44:22 from 68.189.75.103
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Could this be him on ancestry..http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=50000&iid=856260222&fn=&ln=Record+October+1927+Harry+L.+Hall+from+1927-2007&st=d&ssrc=&pid=1489248
Posted March 04, 2007 at 21:59:09 from 68.189.75.103
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This from the national cemetery in Marietta CA
I still don't know if it is correct. The bd is off.
Hall, Harry L, b. 06/26/1877, d. 10/23/1927, PVT HOSP CORPS, US ARMY, RI, Plot: D 10390-B, *
Posted March 04, 2007 at 22:03:13 from 63.170.105.37
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I was looking for the post and saw E-Mock's passing. She wass so good to E-mail with words of kindest. I will really miss her. By all means i will try to get into find a grave. I have found several family members that I knew and some that were unknow: like little babies. My mom's dear cousin passed on this Feburary 23. She was 101. Lived most of her life with in 100 miles of were she grew up.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 22:28:31 from 67.150.73.231
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Very nice site.....Civil War Rosters....
ALABAMA LINKS.....
)http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/3680/cw/cw-al.html
Posted March 04, 2007 at 22:29:50 from 67.150.73.231
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Hi, sorry I missed ya. Good to see you in again. ttys...hope you been feeling better.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 22:32:53 from 67.150.73.231
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I can hardly see..going to bed. Maybe up and here later ,who knows. That census said Samuel was b..AL..do you have a town name for where he was born? Probably not...But thought I'd check.
Posted March 04, 2007 at 22:43:35 from 68.189.75.103
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No, I have never found Levi in any of those places where the kids or some of them were born, TN and also AL the rest were born in GA, but David who was born in TN says born in Atlanta GA in his obit.
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