Posted April 18, 2005 at 07:06:05 from 65.8.202.78 Remove Post?
howard to fudgie
It worked for me the six times I went to Munchen.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 10:25:39 from 205.188.116.136 Remove Post?
Leagen to Mar
I have checked out the Jenkin Jenkin family several times and have yet to find a connection to mine. I even emailed a decendent about my family and they couldn't find a connection. But thanks for the info anyway.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 10:31:01 from 205.188.116.136 Remove Post?
Leagen to Mar
I know when and where my John and Mary Jenkins died just not sure when they came to U.S. except during potato famine of 1840's or where in Ireland they came from. They may have been from Wales before but no proof. All their records say they were (b) in Ireland.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 10:34:29 from 204.113.245.3 Remove Post?
Mr. B to Room
Anyone wanting to do a little digging in Canada. My wife's 2ggrandfather was Patrick O'HARA. His father was James. Patrick was born Jan. 1828 in Canada, James born about 1811 in Ireland. Our biggest dilemma is that we can't find any records showing us when & where James came to Canada. Information on Patrick might be helpful but we need what we can find on James. We know that James md. twice, both to ladies whose first name is Mary. They were living in Oxford-on-Rideau township, Grenville County, Ontario, Canada.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 10:43:45 from 205.188.116.136 Remove Post?
Leagen to Calgal and Howard
O.K. folks, I've solved the problem. Thank You in German is Danke but may be pronounced as Howard spelled it. In other words, Howard was pronouncing it correctly but spelling it wrong. So no big deal, we live in America!

Posted April 18, 2005 at 10:50:21 from 205.188.116.136 Remove Post?
Leagen to Calgal and Howard
There is no German word spelled 'Dunke' If you try to translate that into English you get the same thing. To translate just type 'translation' at your home page and a box comes up into which you type the word/s you want and then you choose what language to translate from and to and click on the little box.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 10:56:20 from 205.188.116.136 Remove Post?
Leagen to Fran,Howard
In German 'Bitte' means 'Ask.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 11:03:19 from 205.188.116.136 Remove Post?
Leagen to Mr. B.
Finding records of when People left Ireland for Canada or U.S. is very hard. My suggestion would be to check Ships Passenger Lists for ships going to canada. Are you sure you have the birth years correct? According to them James was only 17 when Patrick was born.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 11:08:11 from 209.240.205.62 Remove Post?
ax to all
Every one keeps telling me that California gas prices are higher because they put additives in the gas 'maybe'. What abt fishing lic. FL fishing lic cost $ 13.50. CA fishing lic $33. I think we just have a bunch of money hungry Ѝ@'s out here.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 11:24:01 from 205.188.116.136 Remove Post?
Leagen to Mr.B.
If James really was 17 when Patrick was (b) then James probably came to Canada as a child w/his parents. James prob. (m) in Canada also. In order to find him in ships lists you need His parents names since ships lists seldom name the children traveling w/families. You could look for James (m) in that town in Canada a year or so before Patrick was born. Marriage record Might state something about his birth place. Also I have found Death records Often state Where in another country a person was born so you might want to check newspapers in that area for the death of James, if you know about When he died.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 11:42:36 from 24.18.87.202 Remove Post?
Toni to room
Just wanted to put my two cents in. I said bitte as please ans dunka as thank you and lived there five & half years when they didn't speak all that much english as now. I remember they used to say cliner pooper which was little doll, and I came home and used that and a woman got real mad at me when I said that about her little child.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 12:07:38 from 204.113.245.3 Remove Post?
Mr. B to Leagen
Thanks for the input. From what I've not found I feel that James & his wife were md. in Ireland and came into Canada about the time Patric was born. James' birth year is extraapolated from Census record of Canada. No definite date. Patrick's mother Mary Timony was b. about 1811 also and in Ireland. You don't have to tell me how dificult it is to find Irish records, both there and the immigration records here. If someone can come up with something I'd appreciate hearing.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 12:09:56 from 204.113.245.3 Remove Post?
Mr. B to Leagen
Additionally marriage records are almost nonexistant in Canada in the early part of the 19th Century.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 12:14:09 from 205.188.116.136 Remove Post?
Leagen to Mr.B.
I found a lot of messages at Rootsweb about both Patrick and James, son and father. Go to Rootsweb main page, click on Messages, under 'Find a Board' type in 'Grenville Leeds', click on the one result, when you get to that page type in 'O'Hara' and check the Grenville Leeds' box at top (as opposed to 'All Boards'). When the results come up if you scroll down you will see several messages about your people, mostly from 2002.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 15:38:16 from 65.8.195.237 Remove Post?
howard to Leagen
Bavarians say Bitte Bitte for thanks, and for yes.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 15:59:27 from 207.177.61.152 Remove Post?
me to all
http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

Posted April 18, 2005 at 16:15:39 from 24.18.87.202 Remove Post?
Toni to room
Just wondering if room has gone private lately. Seems like it

Posted April 18, 2005 at 17:12:43 from 204.113.245.3 Remove Post?
Mr. B to Toni/Leagen
Apparently the room has turned to some type of German grammar class. Leagen, that was a good help but of the 11 finds 2 were submitted by us, one or two were for unrelated families and the rest were from a very close match but not close enough, Dern, Thanks anyway.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 17:25:47 from 65.92.60.4 Remove Post?
Kalan to Mr.B
try this link ....... http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/thevoyage.html

Posted April 18, 2005 at 17:27:05 from 209.240.205.62 Remove Post?
ax to all
LEO Results for 'bitte' Address:http://dict.leo.org/?lp=ende&lang=en&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&relink=on§Hdr=on&spellToler=std&search=+bitte When I was in GR bitte meant please. According to this it still does, but it can be used many diff ways.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 17:27:52 from 65.92.60.4 Remove Post?
Kalan to Mr.B.
Grenville County GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~onleedsg/

Posted April 18, 2005 at 20:18:13 from 204.113.245.7 Remove Post?
Mr. B to Kalan
Thanks but I've been to most of those sites and can't find anything. One of the biggest problems is that Canada didn't require the ship captains to give a manifest of passengers until the 1860s and what we're wanting is a far time before that. Thanks again. Maybe someone might be able to find something we haven't looked at.

Posted April 18, 2005 at 23:48:17 from 204.113.245.3 Remove Post?
Mr. B to Kalan
One of the links to one of the links you sent did give us a very good picture of what travel would have been like when James came to Canada. Wasn't very easy.



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